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- Fri May 13, 2016 4:02 am
- Forum: General Forum
- Topic: To have been or not to have been...
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Re: To have been or not to have been...
BTW - I am realizing that I have all this interaction with you - BUT failed to be in prayer about you or our interaction. That is my failure. I think it might be good to take a week or so and include this in prayer. Then re-connect and see if you want to focus on substance...
What do you think?
What do you think?
- Fri May 13, 2016 3:59 am
- Forum: General Forum
- Topic: To have been or not to have been...
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Re: To have been or not to have been...
ontological reality - man or divine being divine beings have divine being "bodies" straight, unambiguous text - "there is one God (how many?) AND (someone other than the one God) - the M-A-N (we all know what a man is - and no one would ask if there was not a theological axe to grind) Christ Jesus (...
- Fri May 13, 2016 2:43 am
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- Topic: To have been or not to have been...
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To me, just saying he's still a man is meaningless because that's just an insistence on maintaining a label, yet ontologically-speaking, his entire nature has been changed into something different. Sorry TJ - but that is the answer - and really the whole point - the fundamental distinction between ...
- Thu May 12, 2016 7:12 pm
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- Topic: To have been or not to have been...
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TJ You are defining ontological reality differently than I am. I am sticking with the reality in ICor15. A divine being does not have "a glorified body". A human being does - still a human being regardless. I could not care less what "biblicalunitarian.com" says - that is Weirweille's disciples - Sc...
- Thu May 12, 2016 11:44 am
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- Topic: To have been or not to have been...
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Re: To have been or not to have been...
You are saying that a man has the exact same ontological existence as you and I...except of course when he has a completely different ontological existence. TJ That is not what I said - what I said is that at any given stage in a human's life we are what we are - the zygote stage, the earthly stage...
- Wed May 11, 2016 11:47 pm
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- Topic: To have been or not to have been...
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TJ re: Man These are not relevant questions to me - they do not engender agape out of a pure heart. We know what a man is - when someone has to ask what a man is - well, they are a very different place than a simple and pure walk in Christ in the Kingdom of God. re: Sinlessness Likewise - I am not w...
- Wed May 11, 2016 10:45 pm
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- Topic: To have been or not to have been...
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TJ Again - you are spending all your time on silly disputations - and NOT on the end of the charge which is.... (I bet you can repeat for yourself). None of this type of thinking is making you and I edified or anyone else - it is useless and meaningless pedantry. Again, when I look in the mirror, I ...
- Wed May 11, 2016 7:07 pm
- Forum: General Forum
- Topic: To have been or not to have been...
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Hmmm - I don't see anything re "personal judgments" in particular. In fact I said nothing in particular after that statement - except that your exegesis was incorrect. We are both fully aware of your motivation - for degrading the standard meaning of man in any way possible - there is no reason to h...
- Tue May 10, 2016 7:28 pm
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- Topic: To have been or not to have been...
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Re: To have been or not to have been...
Perception. Some might say the same could be said for your insistence on the words 'Jesus is a MAN.' Fair enuf - but a man is a man - "coming down from above" and "created through him" are vastly less evident and simple concepts... Yet Arians approach these as simplistically and earthly as possible...
- Tue May 10, 2016 6:01 pm
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- Topic: To have been or not to have been...
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Re: To have been or not to have been...
So even though they share in having a divine nature, they are in no way divine? Please re-read what I wrote - the issue is "the sense". You - as all Arians I have ever met - read very simplistically and literally. I am curious what the level of your education is? It would really seem to be a ontolo...