BTW - I am realizing that I have all this interaction with you - BUT failed to be in prayer about you or our interaction. That is my failure. I think it might be good to take a week or so and include this in prayer. Then re-connect and see if you want to focus on substance...

What do you think?

ontological reality - man or divine being divine beings have divine being "bodies" straight, unambiguous text - "there is one God (how many?) AND (someone other than the one God) - the M-A-N (we all know what a man is - and no one would ask if there was not a theological axe to grind) Christ Jesus (...

To me, just saying he's still a man is meaningless because that's just an insistence on maintaining a label, yet ontologically-speaking, his entire nature has been changed into something different. Sorry TJ - but that is the answer - and really the whole point - the fundamental distinction between ...

TJ You are defining ontological reality differently than I am. I am sticking with the reality in ICor15. A divine being does not have "a glorified body". A human being does - still a human being regardless. I could not care less what "biblicalunitarian.com" says - that is Weirweille's disciples - Sc...

You are saying that a man has the exact same ontological existence as you and I...except of course when he has a completely different ontological existence. TJ That is not what I said - what I said is that at any given stage in a human's life we are what we are - the zygote stage, the earthly stage...

TJ re: Man These are not relevant questions to me - they do not engender agape out of a pure heart. We know what a man is - when someone has to ask what a man is - well, they are a very different place than a simple and pure walk in Christ in the Kingdom of God. re: Sinlessness Likewise - I am not w...

TJ Again - you are spending all your time on silly disputations - and NOT on the end of the charge which is.... (I bet you can repeat for yourself). None of this type of thinking is making you and I edified or anyone else - it is useless and meaningless pedantry. Again, when I look in the mirror, I ...

Hmmm - I don't see anything re "personal judgments" in particular. In fact I said nothing in particular after that statement - except that your exegesis was incorrect. We are both fully aware of your motivation - for degrading the standard meaning of man in any way possible - there is no reason to h...

Perception. Some might say the same could be said for your insistence on the words 'Jesus is a MAN.' Fair enuf - but a man is a man - "coming down from above" and "created through him" are vastly less evident and simple concepts... Yet Arians approach these as simplistically and earthly as possible...

So even though they share in having a divine nature, they are in no way divine? Please re-read what I wrote - the issue is "the sense". You - as all Arians I have ever met - read very simplistically and literally. I am curious what the level of your education is? It would really seem to be a ontolo...