Greg, Am I frustrating you by asking you questions? I'm only attempting to follow Paul's inspired counsel. (1 Thessalonians 5:21) I do appreciate your answers because they help me to work through a Unitarian view of the Bible's message. I actually fully answered your first half. All you've said is '...

Hi Greg, Thanks for your responses. Men don't pre-exist. This is fundamentally ontological. Men can not sin. This is behavioral. OK, let's review this. We have our two arguments: 'BAD' ARGUMENT -Literally NOT ONE MAN is righteous. (Rom 3:10) -Jesus is a MAN. -Therefore, Jesus is not righteous. 'GOOD...

Just to give you some feedback, these are 4 important questions that don't seem to have clear answers if I were to adopt your view of Jesus (they do make sense to me in my current view): 1. What was the purpose of Jesus' virgin birth? 2. How was Jesus able to be the only man throughout history that ...

Hi Greg, TJ - I addressed this earlier - "ALL" can have formal exceptions. OK, so the reason why that argument would not be persuasive to you is because you believe there is scriptural precedent for Jesus to be the lone exception (again, I believe this too). So when you argue like this: -Literally N...

Greg, Unfortunately it seems that your other post did not go through. Could you summarize it? But how is Jesus different than Adam who also had no human father? (cf. Luke 3:38) Ontologically he isn't - see ICor15:21, Heb2:11ff. BEHAVIORALLY He is different - He did not sin... We were talking in refe...

There is an obvious element of sonship that is much more meaningful via a virgin birth.... Jesus is not a unique man - He is a unique (monogenes) son of God - in contrast to the other sons of God (as Issac is of Abraham...). But how is Jesus different than Adam who also had no human father? (cf. Lu...

Hi Greg, As promised, I'll try to get a little more in depth as to why I've been focusing on your 'Jesus is a MAN' argument and its assumptions/consequences. You are completely mixing apples and potatoes here to jump from "sinless to "pre-existence" simply because the former does not correspond to "...

Hi Greg! Thanks for your continued responses. Simply a man?? SIMPLY a man???? Geez.... ...Now then - what is this "simply" a man baloney??? That is the whisper of Satan... put that trin garbage where it belongs - into the pit of hell. Um, Greg...I take it you didn't catch that I was specifically usi...

Hi Greg, TJ - there simply is no reason to go through such a painful algorithm - why do so, for God's sakes.... That's a fair question; I'll explain why I'm harping on this point later today when I have the time. In the meantime, I have a question regarding your words below, given your rejection of ...

I don't buy original sin. Thanks for this additional information, Greg. Do most Unitarians reject the concept of original sin? Still, I'm not sure that this answers my question. Regardless of one's hamartiology, what remains is that according to the plain reading of Romans 3:10, Jesus is literally ...